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DrDread The Dungeon Master

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Some people come here for the crafting, some for the PvP, some just like to hang out and listen to waterfalls in Jehlom. I feel most people come to blow things up and opress the helpless pixels that make up the Hostile Faction who are just trying to eek out a living as virtual monsters!.. but I'm not sure 
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Semaj Warlords of Kalmoor

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I have to say RP, though i also spend a fair amount of time crafting, and crafting is what brought me here in the first place. Even when in a party just shooting the ***, I'll often lapse into Twahspeak, as after about a year of living in the character, it's sometimes second nature.
Fortunately I haven't yet had to worry about screaming "I be DROW!" at the top of my lungs when dealing with mundane real life things. Notice the operative word "yet".
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Derius Adventurer

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I spend most of my time running from the mean Freelanders that keep
trying to kill me even though I am usually just minding my own business
playing kick the can with the Giant Desert Beetle.
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dominie18 Thanes of Berrymuck

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I put RPing as that is my favorite aspect. However since so many of the old group I RPed with has been rare to see and you can't toss a dwarf without hitting some jerk with multiple accounts looking to meta game I have not been around much. That and I have not taken time to remake. But, RP is still my choice and I do enjoy it with those whom I trust.
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ATMinotaur Overlords of Doomsha


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I come here for a mix of things, mainly for RP, but I'm happy doing anything long as its fun for me and others (though being an exile, means being a bit of a ass at times to others, but I try not to over do that aspect of things).
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Vanes Overlords of Doomsha

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I'm having a hard time answering the question since truthfully I've spent more than 75% of my time on Torr hacking monsters into pieces, and just 10% or less actually 'roleplaying' if you mean socializing with other people in-game in-character. (Roleplaying can be most about all of the things mentioned here. It can be PvP and searching for 'uber' items. It can be crafting and killing monsters.)
However, I can't remember the last time I was talking out-of-character in the talk channel. I can say quite surely say that I've roleplayed every each encounter with other characters in-game and enjoyed it, even if PvP was involved.
Well, I could say I come to Torr to roleplay, but that would be a lie since I spend so little time roleplaying in truth (Compared to fighting monsters for example).
Most of my time goes into out-of-character chatting in party nowadays.
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Phantasm Chancellors of Holindale

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I'm going to have to agree with Bach. Though I might not be seen as much or by as many as I used to, the Chancellor of Holindale still dwells in the city, often just crafting away and mingling with the local merchants, as the arena of Kingdom politics has all but faded away. I still enjoy it, but it doesn't have the life it once did. I find myself chatting more and more out of character and with very little time in character unless certain players around because most of them just don't care to RP. It's all about can you make me this or that so I can go pvp or powerlevel at such and such place. Really I could care what you do with my wares but a little bit of RP from some would be appreciated.
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Streen15 Demigod

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I have days where I want to level up my character, and then i have days i just want to hang with friends and chat...sometimes when im bored i sign on cause the community is great here...
Other times i have a need for crafting, so a lil bit of everything!
~Drache
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Doomie22 Adventurer


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I see that 5 people have voted for RPing, yet I have very rarely seen any RPing. The most RPing I have seen is when I have been an exile (and I have been an exile for about 4% of my total time on Torr).
The things I see the most on Torr is everyone in a party, not talking to each other, not adventuring with each other and over half of the people are solo'ing areas.
This is hence why I am not longer playing on Torr as it has become a solo world not a PW.
Doomie
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yersch Demigod


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I voted for role playing. When I am on, I am frequently in a
large party for chat reasons (while crafting, etc.), but when I
actually meet up with someone, I am in character. What's the point
otherwise?

edit-->//while enjoying RP, the exile of Garr may have not been the most well thought out or clearly motivated action, but then again, he always had a temper...
Edited by yersch on 29 July 2006 at 8:08pm
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Seith Adventurer

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I voted for dungeon romping. Its probably what I do most, but I enjoy just about everything listed. I do like leveling fast, I also like collecting Uberloot a good bit. I very much like giong places with friends and just sitting around and chatting. I like RP but I tend to get the feeling people don't like the way I RP. I also like PvP but I tend to lay off it because I don't like shouting matches or several foul/angry tells.
Can't say I ever thought about making words with potions on the ground, but perhaps that'll soon be my new favorite 
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dominie18 Thanes of Berrymuck

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To answer you statement Doomie I guess one would have to define RP. See, when I am in a party be it in the same area or across the world much of what we are talking about refers to Torr. So, if someone asks for advice or wants some item fixed that is RP. Just because we are not using a dialect or some such thing does not mean it isn't RP.
To compare I have been playing World of Warcraft lately. Yea, I buckled and joined the legions of people who pay for fun but I needed a break from Torr for reasons I stated earlier. The comparison comes in that I solo FAR FAR more in WoW than I ever did on Torr and RP... well that is almost unheard of on the server I am on. Torr has far more RP even with people in parties but spread out across the world.
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Streen15 Demigod

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As for a role playing server, I understand groups like HoB RP a lot here, but I still see a very huge difference between RP on torr and RP on other servers. Why? Because the majority of torr is centered around powergaming and as phelix put it, dungeon romping. Plus, whenever a PvP situation erupts, people tend to always take it out of RP. Party chat is not RP, neither is tells. Sure you can write stuff like *someone whispers behind you...* in a tell, that's RP....but i see barely of that happening.
Sure people RP here a lot, but i think the main focus of the majority of torr has been leveling up and dungeon romping.
I think about 95% of paladins and monks (dragrin an exclusion) on torr don't play their characters right (yes that is according to my opinion so it may not mean much). They see an exile and automatically attack, not saying a word. That's RP? BS. That's called hardcore pvp with no RP between the two players. Lawful good doesn't mean you automatically attack exiles, it means you uphold the law and are rightous and fair, and that you fight on fair terms, rather then just auto-attack.
But like i stated, it's only my opinion of RP after all.
~Drache
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Streen15 Demigod

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Dang it, for some reason I can't edit my posts...
I wanted to add in that another possible reason why a lot of people RP a lot more these days is because they are higher levels and don't have an urge much more. I noticed that when I hit 19 with Frinn and could take on pretty much anything at the time. I started focusing on other stuff at the time, rather then powergaming. I've had my fun powergaming and as a sorc, but in the end i got sick of doing the same stuff over and over again..so i retired and started chatting a lot more...
I gaurentee you if you were to take a poll about a year back, the majority of people would say dungeon romping...
~Drache
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Semaj Warlords of Kalmoor

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Streen15 the Drachemaster wrote:
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For some of the forums, like this one and the Update Forums, you actually can, but there's a trick to it. I had to use a trick to quote you above.
Copy the contents of your earlier post, and then click Edit. You'll see a blank screen. Paste in the old text and add your new comments.
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Comabear Hero

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I do RP most of the time when I am on Torr. Some do and some don't. When adventuring, in PvP, I try to RP aswell. Granted there are situations where I haven't been the perfect player and haven't been able to stay in character - we are all human. Some seem to be looking for anyone to just remotely make a mistake, just in order to hang them. Tension like this I haven't seen on any server. EDIT - Not to mention the grudges people tend to have with eachother, sheesh there are a lot of elephants outthere!!!
I used to come to Torr for the loads of fun I have had with loads of people RPing. One thing though, IF you don't look for RP you wont find it. Yes, a lot of those I used to have bundles of fun RPing with have left, and yes I haven't been actively playing like I used to.
I have seen a lot of tension and a lot of frustration, which left me kinda cold as far as Torr goes. I have asked myself one thing - do I want to spend my time on a server where so many are either trying to make others miserable or are miserable themselves? I have been verbally hung more than once for asking simple questions, because the ones I chose to ask were frustrated about something I had no influence on. I have been called anything from standoffish to exploiter, well worse than that, but I'll keep this clean. I can live with being called things and the loads of times people asume that I do this and that, but I really can't handle all the frustation.
Seeing others get so wound up or sad about a game, well I tend to worry too much, so I stuck my tail behind my legs and pop in now and again to see what's shaking.
I really do miss Torr, I miss the hour long talks(RP) with some of you, I miss the grand scaled adventures. Buuuut anger and frustration took that away, perhaps I am overreacting, I sure hope I am...
-Keash
Edited by Comabear on 30 July 2006 at 5:42pm
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Streen15 Demigod

 Frinn
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Although I do agree with you that if you don't look for RP, you won't find it...an example i might present here is Spike. Throughout the entire history of this character he has been grieved numerous times...to the point where he eventually started holding grudges towards people. He looked for RP, but in the broad spectrum of things, I think he didn't find much...not nearly as much as he could find possibly on other servers.
I won't mention names, but even though he acted everything in RP on the server (except for some serious out of RP comments against some people that i know about) many did not take his RP very...kindly. Now I can understand where a certain group of players might have disliked him, but the way the settled their differences with them was in terms of out of rp...
Now I don't like to talk for spike, but I do miss him, and I am guessing he is one of the ones you say you miss from the old days of torr keash, but lets face it...with multi-accounts running around and so much deception on this server, who knows whether the 'new player' is just another remake of another?
I am sorry but a lot of the grudges/hatred amongst people sparked as soon as multi-accounts started. These same people ask themselves why it would do such a thing, but in reality, I find it ignorant. Not only are you decieving your so called 'friends' with another account, but your cheating dread's system and the other players. I don't care what you claim you can do with two seperate accounts (1 exile, 1 freelander, not carrying information over), it just doesn't work. People know me for having a problem with multicounts in general, but I REALLY have a problem with multicounts that have one exile, one freelander.
The best part of Torr I always found was the ability to do anything. It felt very much like playing a MMORPG, and that's actually what drew me to the server...but like almost all MMORPGs, RP is not its main focus...I already suggested a long time ago that dread appoint GM's or give certain players an item that allows them to do stuff that normal players cannot--such as make burning corpses, or corpses in general, possibly give items as rewards on GM led quests, make things LESS SCRIPTED on the server...I understand dread when he's very protective of his work, but when everything on this server is scripted, it leaves it very hard to RP with a non-changing world...the only thing changing in it right now are merchants stores and who owns what mansion/house and who's an exile/whos not...
On other servers GMs/DMs drastically change the plot lines everyday. Such as, kingdoms declaring war upon other kingdoms, or massive raids that leave a city in ruin for weeks, or a giant evil (yet again something not scripted) that has come to plague a city that a group of heroes must solve...It's my opinion, but I find it very hard to RP in a scripted world...one that revolves always around the same quests, and the same world.
~Drache
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ATMinotaur Overlords of Doomsha


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The last two posts (Drache and Keash) pretty much cover my current feeling about Torr, and I been like that for roughly 6 months now. Keah's because I'm one thats now feeling frustrated, and Drache's for the reasons why I'm feeling that way.
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Semaj Warlords of Kalmoor

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The last few comments are quite disturbing given Torr history, considering Spike, Streen, and Alice T Minotaur date back to the pre-dawn of Torr civilization, to early alpha or beta phases. I've been here about 18 months and I have to agree the mood on the server has definitely gone downhill. Seems we're just marking time until Torr2 kicks in, but I fear for its success given the current player climate.
Edited by Semaj on 31 July 2006 at 11:51am
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Tozza Champion


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Everyone seems so depressed and bored since ive been banned :D
Maybe you need a lil more evil 
As for the pole, personally i love good RP as well as good PvP and as you all know i found it hard to balance out the two, my favourite two characters were Kald Rift and Maam Keltzino, and i think that proves my point, they were my only two characters that balanced PvP with a decent amount of RP. But on the left hand i had idiotic characters e.g: Nito, Susuna Putsiky... the list goes on never ending.
The problem with Torr is that its like most things... If you have no-one willing to use the shout channel for some RP such as the mindless crusades of Vasharr or the godly defences of Vasarius. Then the chances of anyone else roleplaying are slim, if some of the higher level players on the server start RP'ing and encouraging others, that is when the server picks up its "RP momentum"
Torr just requires some older players like Vanes, Bach, Keash, Twah just to name a few, to give RP the good old kick start 
Thats all i have to say, Your community member, Tozza.
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Semaj Warlords of Kalmoor

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RP still occurs through Shouts, though some people do not consider that to be proper RP. Twah still does her war cry Shouts, we had someone recently lay claim to the throne of one of the cities, and the usual horsing around and wordplay still continues. Exile raids on towns still occur, a few nights ago we had an engagement that lasted nearly 2 hours. I can't speak for the Freeland cities, but at Kalmoor and Doomsha, RP situations between individual players still occurs at about the same level. If there's any depression and boredom in Torr, it's a pretty sure bet it doesn't have anything to do with any particular individual being banned.
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Streen15 Demigod

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It doesn't help when you got players who want to PvM, and players who want to PvP mixed into the whole bunch.
Derius, Gle, Pravus, Percivus, Ender, and other such players are just examples of hardcore pvpers. Even if you only wish to play on torr for YOUR reasons, others always get in your way. Take spike for example, he used to be a hardcore crafter---damn his shop was nice---but then thieves came into the mix and since we are a 'sandlot' server, they have a right to make spike's job difficult...which gets spike tee'd off at thieves...
It's just one of the many problems...that and the fact that there's a lot of multi-accounts and post-banned players playing on the server despite what dread had in mind.
~Drache
__________________ What is the best in life Conan?
Schwarzenegger: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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DrDread The Dungeon Master

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There are less people overall playing Neverwinter. The game is years old. A lot of people are playing newer games or World of Warcraft or something
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Derius Adventurer

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I like to think of myself as a beginner PvPer.
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Tozza Champion


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I agree with Derius... PvP is for loser hardcore gamers! You should all be banned!
P.S i know how it feels to suck at PvP derius dont worry we are all in your boat. Oh and Twah your completely right, its not to do with me getting banned... As
the old saying goes... "Only boring people get bored" *wink*
Edited by Tozza on 09 August 2006 at 2:13am
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Postreth Al Peasant

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there is no vote for raiding, as that is what i spend most my time doing.
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yersch Demigod


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Hey, no double posting!!
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Postreth Al Peasant

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odd, on my page i have only posted once, or are you talking to someone else?
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Lexx Demigod

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There's no option for "Crafting". I like the crafting of the server (mining, crafting, farming, etc.).
WHERE'S THE OPTION FOR CRAFTING???
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Postreth Al Peasant

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I geuss you and I fit under the "something else" catagory Lexx
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DeltaRaven01 Knave

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I also voted for dungeon Romping. Im new to the whole RPing thing but I really enjoy party dungeon raids/ group hunting. Crafting is also another one of my favorites, Ive never seen a server this indepth. Torr is just a whole lotta fun for me. -- And I look forward to seeing you all on.
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Saint Corrupted Knave

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i come for new experience,..stayed cause of crafting, and met good friends and game,.....it's a wunnerful place, dread, ty.
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Tozza Champion


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Where is the "Waiting for an update option"? hahah just kiddiiiiiing...
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